Hahaha @EarthMama. I know it’s weird to consider one happening without the other but it does happen. Generally when masturbating I find that I continue to jerk off with the aim of achieving ejaculation and orgasm, which generally finishes the session. People with a penis can get to a point where they stop masturbating but have gone so far that they still ejaculate, but not far enough that they orgasm. In this instance I can actually keep masturbating, and because I have already ejaculated can then orgasm without any physical cum coming out of my penis. This can go back and forth, depending on how far you take yourself towards climax. I’m not sure on the actual physiology of it, but it’s definitely possible for someone with a penis to orgasm without ejaculation and ejaculate without orgasm.
Keen to hear other people’s experiences with edging.